Did I really just read "1 GB SLC" on the adam specs?!? :D

[payce]

Hey!

As with the new website up and running we got the "pre-final" specs (let's call them like that for now ).

What do I read there? Okay, the adam got a little bit more weight... not important ... 25 Wh battery ... know that ... !1GB SLC! ???

Swap? Kernel? Both? I can't imagine they put swap there, as A) we already got 1 Gig RAM (omfg...) and a SLC is not really good for swapping (will be worn out pretty quickly). But if the Kernel gets to sit inside there... woooooohooooooo!!! That is gonna be lightning fast!

What do you think?

[josh4trunks]

SLC worn quickly?!? It lasts 10 to 100x what MLC (most SSD's) last per cell. Also SLC's often have a few times faster write speed then MLC (but similar read).

There's a reason SLC's are so much more expensize then MLC's per gigabyte, they have always lasted a very very long time (more then a human's life time) and only recently are MLCs getting almost forever lifetimes.

Your right this would be great for booting off, faster then other tablet's flash memory (and much better then ipad's) but not too much faster then MLC SSD (they usually have the same read speed).

[Zekexz]

I dont think i read that. For me it more looked like it said 'reason to charge customers +$100 for adam'.
lol

But yeah thats gotta put the adam's speed uncomparable to other tablets.

[josh4trunks]

I dont think i read that. For me it more looked like it said 'reason to charge customers +$100 for adam'.
lol

But yeah thats gotta put the adam's speed uncomparable to other tablets.

You don't think you read it, lol? It's under memory/storage.
http://www.notionink.com/techspecs.php

I probably don't get sarcasm right now cause I barely slept the last few nights... Anyway hopefully they stick to the 400/450/450/500 prices they stated (and maybe even remember the college student discount they promised)

[Zekexz]

noo.. it was sarcastic that to me when i read that feature - i was more thinking about the price cranked up higher

but yeah im really hoping the price range will be around the 400-500.

[payce]

SLC worn quickly?!? It lasts 10 to 100x what MLC (most SSD's) last per cell. Also SLC's often have a few times faster write speed then MLC (but similar read).

There's a reason SLC's are so much more expensize then MLC's per gigabyte, they have always lasted a very very long time (more then a human's life time) and only recently are MLCs getting almost forever lifetimes.

Your right this would be great for booting off, faster then other tablet's flash memory (and much better then ipad's) but not too much faster then MLC SSD (they usually have the same read speed).

If you do swapping on SLC/MLC's they will be worn out more quickly than in "normal" usage. That's a known issue (especially in Windows, where swapping is more like a hobby of the OS than something else). That's also one of the reasons why servers still use HDD's (really many read/write accesses). If there is no swapping going on and just /system/ plus /data/ etc. are on the SSD you are right: That SLC will certainly last forever.

I do think the booting with SLC will be faster than MLC. The read speeds are (about) the same, correct. But the typical access times are about 1/2 to 1/3 of MLC's. During boot many file accesses have to be accomplished, so I do think it will be (little bit?) faster than MLC's.

Ooooooh my... that device even tends to get better as we wait for it! ^^

[josh4trunks]

SLC will not be worn out from alot of writes or reads. Even if you constantly tried to erase and rewrite to an SLC drive it wouldn't fail in your life time. Older MLC will but because of advances in technology/TRIM support newer MLC's will probably outlive us as well.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...lc-vs-mlc.html

[payce]

Okay, now, THAT IS COOL! So if we EVEEER run out of RAM (1 Gig!) we will even be able to do efficient swapping on that drive. Oh my oh my, the adam has to be lightning fast for sure. Can't wait for the first Quadrant results (I know it does not represent the daily use - it is just a number - but anyhow I am really anxious).

When did Rohan state that SLC? I think it is a great news that we have such a thing in adam? Superb idea doing that instead of slow (bottleneck) NAND flash!

[josh4trunks]

Okay, now, THAT IS COOL! So if we EVEEER run out of RAM (1 Gig!) we will even be able to do efficient swapping on that drive. Oh my oh my, the adam has to be lightning fast for sure. Can't wait for the first Quadrant results (I know it does not represent the daily use - it is just a number - but anyhow I am really anxious).

When did Rohan state that SLC? I think it is a great news that we have such a thing in adam? Superb idea doing that instead of slow (bottleneck) NAND flash!

I highly doubt the SLC of used for swap, it would be the best swap possible but still much slower then ram. Most effiecient would be to fill the 1gb SLC with the operating system. I honestly think it would be very hard to run out of 1GB of ram using android. It is the highest amount on an android tablet yet.

For refrences my samsung moment running android 2.1 has 288MiB of ram, about 1/32 as much ram as the ADAM!

All in all if we boot from a 1GB SLC, have a dual core 1GHz processor, have a nVidia GPU, and have 1GB of RAM this will be the fastest tablet on the market!